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P vs Z Opening

FFE per the Protoss vs Zerg guide: 8 pylon scout, identify the Zerg opener, then respond (4-6 pool through 3 hatch before pool). Nexus-first responses when their base was scouted before 11 supply; 11-forge-first otherwise.

MMain
8◈8
Identify Zerg opener
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▶0:55▶1:10▶1:20▶1:30▶1:47▶2:03
vs 4-6 pool
910
vs 9 pool (11 forge)
11
#3:00
9 pool: 2-4 lings
131515
9 pool: 6+ lings
131515161718+1
vs over-pool (11 for…
11
#3:00
Over-pool: 2-4 lings
131315
Over-pool: 6+ lings
131315
vs 12 pool: scouted …
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◈@11
vs 12 pool (nexus fi…
131315161718+2
vs 12 pool (11 forge)
11151515
vs 9/10 hatch: scout…
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◈@11
vs 9/10 hatch (nexus…
131415161617+2
vs 9/10 hatch (11 fo…
11141516
Hatch first: pool by…
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▶2:03
vs 11/12 hatch: scou…
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◈@11
vs 11/12 hatch (nexu…
131516171819+2
vs 11/12 hatch (11 f…
111516171819+2
vs 3 hatch: scouted …
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◈@11
vs 3 hatch before po…
131516171819+2
vs 3 hatch before po…
111516171819+2
Standard tech tail (…
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MAIN

Main

2 steps
  1. Pylon
    Pylon @8 supplyIn the natural, positioned for the wall-off
  2. ◈
    Scout @8 supplyPylon probe scouts for the Zerg opener
CONTINUE →

Identify Zerg opener

0 steps
IfSpawning PoolSpawning Pool started before 0:55 →
IfSpawning PoolSpawning Pool started before 1:10 →
IfOverlordOverlord started before 1:20 →
IfHatcheryHatchery started before 1:30 →
IfHatcheryHatchery started before 1:47 →
IfSpawning PoolSpawning Pool started before 2:03 →
OTHERWISE →

vs 4-6 pool

2 steps
  1. Pylon
    Pylon @9 supplySecond pylon next to the nexus immediately
  2. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @10 supplyCannon in the mineral line; protect it with probes. Then continue as a Two Gateway opener.
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 9 pool (11 forge)

1 step
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
IfZergling= 6 Zergling spotted before 3:00 →
OTHERWISE →

9 pool: 2-4 lings

3 steps
  1. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @13 supply
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @15 supply
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
CONTINUE →

9 pool: 6+ lings

7 steps
  1. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon ×2 @13 supplyTwo cannons before nexus
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @15 supply
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
  4. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  5. Assimilator
    Assimilator @17 supply
  6. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @18 supply
  7. Zealot
    Zealot @18 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs over-pool (11 forge)

1 step
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
IfZergling= 6 Zergling spotted before 3:00 →
OTHERWISE →

Over-pool: 2-4 lings

3 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @13 supply
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
CONTINUE →

Over-pool: 6+ lings

3 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon ×2 @13 supplyTwo cannons
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
CONTINUE →

vs 12 pool: scouted them first?

0 steps
Iffound enemy base before @11 supply →
OTHERWISE →

vs 12 pool (nexus first)

8 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Forge
    Forge @13 supply
  3. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @15 supplyAdd more vs many lings
  4. Gateway
    Gateway @16 supply
  5. Pylon
    Pylon @17 supplyIn main
  6. Assimilator
    Assimilator @18 supply
  7. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @20 supply
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @22 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 12 pool (11 forge)

4 steps
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @15 supply
  3. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @15 supplyAdd more vs many lings
  4. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
CONTINUE →

vs 9/10 hatch: scouted them first?

0 steps
Iffound enemy base before @11 supply →
OTHERWISE →

vs 9/10 hatch (nexus first)

8 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Forge
    Forge @14 supply
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
  4. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  5. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon ×2 @16 supplyUsually two cannons; use probes to block
  6. Assimilator
    Assimilator @17 supply
  7. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @18 supply
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @20 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 9/10 hatch (11 forge)

4 steps
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @14 supply
  3. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
  4. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon ×2 @16 supplyUsually two cannons; use probes to block
CONTINUE →

Hatch first: pool by 2:05?

0 steps
IfSpawning PoolSpawning Pool started before 2:03 →
OTHERWISE →

vs 11/12 hatch: scouted them first?

0 steps
Iffound enemy base before @11 supply →
OTHERWISE →

vs 11/12 hatch (nexus first)

8 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Forge
    Forge @15 supply
  3. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  4. Gateway
    Gateway @17 supply
  5. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @18 supplyAdd more vs many lings
  6. Assimilator
    Assimilator @19 supply
  7. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @20 supply
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @22 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 11/12 hatch (11 forge)

8 steps
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @15 supply
  3. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  4. Gateway
    Gateway @17 supply
  5. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @18 supplyAdd more vs many lings
  6. Assimilator
    Assimilator @19 supply
  7. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @20 supply
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @22 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 3 hatch: scouted them first?

0 steps
Iffound enemy base before @11 supply →
OTHERWISE →

vs 3 hatch before pool (nexus first)

8 steps
  1. Nexus
    Nexus @13 supply
  2. Gateway
    Gateway @15 supply
  3. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  4. Assimilator
    Assimilator @17 supply
  5. Forge
    Forge @18 supply
  6. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @19 supply
  7. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @20 supplyScout their third; consider a cannon rush
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @22 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

vs 3 hatch before pool (11 forge)

8 steps
  1. Forge
    Forge @11 supplyForge into the wall
  2. Nexus
    Nexus @15 supply
  3. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  4. Gateway
    Gateway @17 supply
  5. Assimilator
    Assimilator @18 supply
  6. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @19 supply
  7. Photon Cannon
    Photon Cannon @20 supplyScout their third; consider a cannon rush
  8. Zealot
    Zealot @22 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build

Standard tech tail (20 zealot)

4 steps
  1. Pylon
    Pylon @16 supplyIn main
  2. Assimilator
    Assimilator @17 supply
  3. Cybernetics Core
    Cybernetics Core @18 supply
  4. Zealot
    Zealot @20 supply
CONTINUE →End of Build
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